Vote for why you think it jumped
Never Jumped
New Kid In Town (Ricki Lake)
Moving (off the front)
Dana Delany gets popular
They changed the opening theme
Shark Bytes
A good point about the romance, but does Richard have to end up being such a sad, pathetic character at the end?
Never jumped
The one thing that could have casued it to jump would have been a McMurphy/dr Richard romance and they thankfully resisted that
The one thing that could have casued it to jump would have been a McMurphy/dr Richard romance and they thankfully resisted that
Never watched the show very much, but I absolutely melt over Dana Delaney. Hot, sexy and an incredibly beautiful face.
Found out she's now on "Desperately Slutty Housewifes" or whatever it's called. Might have to start watching it again after football season.
Found out she's now on "Desperately Slutty Housewifes" or whatever it's called. Might have to start watching it again after football season.
I happened upon this website and am so pleased to see all the positive opinions on my all-time favorite show...CHINA BEACH. As someone else said, I still miss it, and remember how I looked forward to each episode, and after watching it each time was amazed at how real the writers and cast made the Vietnam war seem, and how thought provoking it was about the futility of wars, and the lifetime residual effect it has on the people who serve. Dana Delaney as Mc Murphy was not only a natural beauty, she was flawed, human, sensitive, and in a war that she agonized over the meaning of. I too cannot believe Hollywood didn't make better use of her talent, and failed to find her others ways to showcase her gifts as an actress. Men and women loved her equally. "Dodger" was my second favorite character, and although I've seen Jeff Kober in a few other roles, he too is missed. I truly feel this show never "jumped", and I would have watched it for many more years to come, had they left it on. If it does come out on DVD, I would be the first to purchase it. I was a young wife during the Vietnam war and I knew many people who lost their lives there; my ex-husband was badly injured while serving there. People never seem to learn that wars do not solve anything, cost countries precious lives, and those who do mange to make it through are traumatized and changed until the end of their days. Yet the politicians sleep well at night on their pillow top mattresses. In my humble opinion, that is why we need TV shows like China Beach...to show us the reality of war, and its long-term effects. I commend anyone (including Clint Eastwood for the Iwo Jima movies) who manage to do that in such a powerful fashion. I hope reruns will be rebroadcast again, as I did not know the History Channel was showing them.
I had never thought about the comparison of 'China Beach' to 'Lost' but that is so on key! Also, Colleen McMurphy was in a lot of ways the person Kate seems like she wants to be. And they both lost major characters early on, Cherry and Shannon.
The show didn't, but the nation did.
(The episode with unzipping the body bags of mostly black soldiers ... was not "compatible" with Iraq, Act I.)
War was no longer "safely" in the past, and a show like "China Beach" had to be slipped into the background (suspended, then hidden on Saturday, wrapped up and sealed). Without the critical acclaim, it would have disappeared much faster.
(SEMI-RELATED ASIDE: After 9-11, "La Femme Nikita" reruns were quickly phased off the air on USA -- perhaps "inspired by" the end-of-season-two episode which "illustrated" that taking Saddam Hussein out of power would lead to worldwide destruction: somewhat "incompatible" with the flow toward Iraq, Act II.
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Excuse what may seem to be excessively political commentary ... but some kinds of shows are susceptible to their timing and world events. A work of art about Vietnam can't help but be effected.
(The episode with unzipping the body bags of mostly black soldiers ... was not "compatible" with Iraq, Act I.)
War was no longer "safely" in the past, and a show like "China Beach" had to be slipped into the background (suspended, then hidden on Saturday, wrapped up and sealed). Without the critical acclaim, it would have disappeared much faster.
(SEMI-RELATED ASIDE: After 9-11, "La Femme Nikita" reruns were quickly phased off the air on USA -- perhaps "inspired by" the end-of-season-two episode which "illustrated" that taking Saddam Hussein out of power would lead to worldwide destruction: somewhat "incompatible" with the flow toward Iraq, Act II.
Excuse what may seem to be excessively political commentary ... but some kinds of shows are susceptible to their timing and world events. A work of art about Vietnam can't help but be effected.
This show never jumped, but Dana Delaney made my shark jump!!!! What a Fine lokin' woman. I can't tell you how many impure thoughts this woman imparted in my 11 year old mind!!
I don't believe this program ever jumped. This was an attempt to come to grips with what those of us who served in Vietnam went through.
The music was also very good, certainly "We Gotta Get Out of This Place", and certainly the "Chao Ong" episode with Nancy Sinatra.
The music was also very good, certainly "We Gotta Get Out of This Place", and certainly the "Chao Ong" episode with Nancy Sinatra.
Does anybody know if this is being aired on some obscure channel? It used to be on American Life Network, and Comcast decided to can that channel. I do not see it on either Dish or Direct.
I am serious about finding this show. I would gladly tell Comcast where to go and why I mean it if I could only find the show somewhere else.
I know the show is available as Grayware. I am reluctant to buy DVDs this way as no benefits flow back to the original artists,and I do respect their equity interests in getting paid.
Post any ideas, or email me on lkpears@hotmaiol.com.
Lloyd
Dana Delnay was the most stuning and best actress in TV on this show. However, the thrid season was not all that watchable.
A truly revolutionary show, in particular the brave attempt in the third season to give glimpses of the characters' post-war lives. It didn't always work (Did every man in Vietnam have to be in love with McMurphy?), but due to the excellent writing and acting, they pulled it off and the show never jumped! Outstanding episodes: "One Giant Leap" "I Could Have Danced All Night, But Didn't" "The Big Bang" "Ghosts" "Through and Through" "One Small Step" "F.N.G." "Holly's Choice" "Where The Boys Are" "The Quiet Earth" "Hello Goodbye" (Series Finale) "Who's Crying Now?" "Crossing the Great Water" "Tet '68" "Escape" "Phoenix" "A Rumour of Peace" "Strange Brew" & "Twilight". Every episode had at least one or two great moments, if overall they were sometimes uneven. My only disappointment with the 3rd season was the overemphasis on McMurphy's post-war scars as opposed to the other characters, and the show lost some of its ensemble appeal. I realize that she was always the lead character and Dana Delany always made her watchable and interesting, but I suppose I wanted to know more about everyone else. In a way, "Lost" reminds me of "China Beach" as you have a lot of various characters from many diverse backgrounds and personalities thrown together in a kind of survival situation and how each character's journey of self-discovery is altered by the experience. The characters in "Lost" is about their pre-island experience, in "China Beach", it's their post-war experience. So "Lost" is an inversion of "China Beach". I hope this show comes on DVD with many features and extras because it has a lot to offer and it deserves a long legacy.
This show was one of the most brilliant shows on TV, It never jumped, it did what it needed to do. I am so tired of the negative comments on Ricki Lake. The episode told in flashback when she had the abortion was extremely well acted, written, directed, AND edited. This show rocked!
China Beach never jumped. I have loved this show since it premiered (when I was nine years old), and it remains my favorite show of all time. In every war since the beginning of time, women have played a key role, and China Beach expanded that to a tangible reality. It's easy to name the categories of women that served in Vietnam: nurses, Red Cross, clerical staff, etc. But, to put a face and a story to those thousands of women through a popular television show was revolutionary. The women are veterans, and as the controversial final season proves, carry the same invisible wounds that the combat soldiers carried post-war. Nurses, like McMurphy, went into that war thinking that they would be traveling and living a glamorous life overseas, taking a boat cruise here and dressing a wound there. Instead, these twenty-two year old women were dealing with eighteen year old boys blown to mushy bits, begging them to not let them die. The soldiers had to go out and do their job: you see a bad guy, you kill him. The nurses and other staff had to do their job, as well: trying to save the lives of begging, bleeding boys. I am grateful that China Beach decided to delve into the post-war years, because the "back in the world" experience was as crucial to vets as the "in-country" year(s). Women suffer from PTSD, just like McMurphy; women have identity crises, just like Frankie; women pretend that nothing happened and funnel their pain into work, just like KC; women accept their service and move on with their lives, just like Lilah. China Beach exposed me to what bravery truly is, and in a shape that I possess: that of a woman. It is still one of the most important shows that has ever blessed television, and it is an appalling tragedy that it is not out on DVD. I'm sorry, but you can get every episode of "Good Times" and "Masters of the Universe", but not China Beach!?!? This show was transcendent.
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