Shark Bytes

Transformers never jumped the Shark. The 86 movie was awesome and the show was still good after that. Season 3 while not the power house that Season 1 and Season 2 were was still very good. The last couple episodes of 4 with the Headmasters was too many too much at once.

the problem with the 1986 movie was that they set to far in front of the end of the 2nd series while it may have seemed a good way to introduce new transformers for the guest voices (judd nelson,leonard nimoy and others)it completly ruined further series.

The 1986 animated movie pretty much killed the show. The immediate season was awful with horrible writing and worse animation. The only good thing to come out of season 3 was "Call of the Primitives" which, ironically, had some of the best writing and animation I've ever seen in any episode of "Transformers".

The show went down hill with season three. Terrible characters and horrible animation. All the favorites were gone, both Autobots and Decepticons. We were left with lame ass characters. It was just too different from the first two seasons and that's why I stopped watching it.

How many episodes did they make all together? My girlfriend keeps asking me stupid questions when im watching re runs on youtube.

Optimus' death. And all the other deaths in the movie. That just killed the show, especially because it was so early in the show (post 2nd-season). If the show already had about 5 seasons under its belt before the movie, maybe it would have been a little more OK to do that.

Transformers jumped shark when the 1986 movie came out. Have you ever wondered to yourself "what would have happened if Optimus Prime was kept alive?" Basically, Prime's death signaled the beginning of a new series that lacked all the glory of the first two.Some can say that Season two lacked direction in its storylines with episodes like "The Girl Who Loved Powerglide." May'be the coming of the end was seen in the second season, for the big one was the 86 movie.

People...it all comes down to corporate enterprise. The powers that be at the time wanted to sell off their new line of Transformers, so the Movie was nothing but a "Night of the Long Knives" for many of the old transformers. Optimus Prime, who was a cross between John Wayne and Ronald Reagan, lost his appeal, and so Hot Rod, who was young, brash, overconfident and liberal, became the new male archtype for boys to imitate.
The whole plan backfired in my opinion.
Long live the original Transformers.

beast wars and beast machines are awsome becuase i like the story line and i like the beast forms. honestly i got tried of seeing cars. like i said i am happy they did beast machines and i wish they will bring beast wars back someday.

eaugeane, I think it was just an editing error as for Barricade living. I think they just forgot to put his death in it or didn't mean to add him at the end. It's like in Equilibrium, the gun error which was just bad editing. And as for Bonecrusher dying? He had to die. Optimus Prime cut his head off. You can't live through that.

for the new movie, i got two prtests(disagrements) one is a disagrement. it is that micheal bay(director) said that the only decepticon to survive is starscream. BUT CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY BARRICADE IS DEAD?! because i saw the movie twice and nothing changed about the movie. the second is a protest. WHY DID BONECRUSHER HAVE TO DIE HE WAS SO AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the director said they weren't going to make another transformers movie!!!! i think they should make at least a seriese of them. that's all i have to say about the movie g'bie!

i got a question for you, who is your favorite transformmer in the new movie ?

TF as a whole is a bit iffy for me. Let me start off by saying I am not looking at any plot consistencies in this at all. (If I did, I would be scratching my head over every other episode.)

The original two serasons were innovative and awesome. If anything, the 2nd season may have been "reaching for it," but only because it was more than three times the size of season 1.

Then came the movie (which removed the older toys that were made pre-Takara and patched together under the "Transformers" toy label) which wasn't so bad. It was big, it was epic, and it had huge star power come together for it. If it weren't for the dialogue, the plot itself is fairly cliched.

The third season was, IMHO, excellent for its new direction and deeper stories. It wasn't as awesome as the first season, but I've accepted that. Unfortunately the production was lower than the 2nd season of the TV series.

And then Optimus returned at the end. Completely nullifying the movie as well as his "zombie" sacrifice. The "Hate Plague" wasn't that bad, but it was a bit of a stretch.

The 4th season, "Rebirth" was decent in terms of enjoyment, but was too short to amount to anything.

The "season 5" with updated segue graphics (a CG cube instead of the flipping insignias) was really milking the name, but it was a "best of" series and an acceptable way of bringing the older episodes back.

Japan did a decent job continuing the series with Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory. Though I will say that these 3 seasons pretty much catered every cliche, western and eastern, which in my eyes was where the series Jumped.

Back on the western hemisphere, Beast Wars was an innovative turn of events, and with the exception of a few "strange" episodes, kept my interest (it probably helps it was aired with ReBoot). Halfway through the 2nd series though, concentrating on nature and theology, TF finally Jumped.

Every series after Beast Wars 2 and Victory felt like watered-down reruns.

Q: Ya know what made the 80's movie meaningless?

A: The 80's movie.

The death of Optimus, Ratchet, Prowl, Ironhide, etc etc was stupid. Why would you kill half your main cast? Season 4- House MD, House dies....so does Forman, Chase and Cuddy. They are replaced by Gregorous Prime.

I hated the 80's movie so damn much. Thanks god for Dreamworks pictures and the new 2007 movie.

JTS for me when they brought back Optimus in the TV series after the movie. They should have left him dead. Makes the movie that much more great...instead, it kinda makes Optimus' sacrifice in the movie meaningless.

I own all the season dvds for TF that have been discontinued and I have to say the show definitely JTS. Where exactly? It starts around season 2 when there are sill episodes like going back to medieval times and discovering that underwater community of sea creatures that talked and tried to conquer Earth. I was a big fan of the movie but it was only made to introduce a new toy line and nothing else. If sacrificing your best characters for the sake of new toys and using a movie to push that isn't JTS then I don't know what is. Season 1 was the best hands down.