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Never Jumped
Laura Palmer's killer revealed
The second season
Heather Graham as Annie
Same Actor, Different Character (Sheryl Lee)
Shark Bytes
I'm in the 'jumped when Laura Palmer's killer was revealed' camp, but I think the show suffers alot from having a first season half the size of the second. If you watch from the pilot to the Laura's killer reveal there's about a season sized arc with alot of really interesting stuff.
Unfortunately this leaves about half an arc at the end of season two thats nothing but nonsense and loose ends (except for last half of the final episode) because they arent close to resolution. The show probably would have worked best had Windom Earle and Leland's story lines switched places chronologically, but then we would have to know how Coop got out of the black lodge.
Its also funny to note that originally Coop and Audrey were supposed to be together, but external forces quashed it and the plots brought in as replacements (Ben Horne's insanity and Annie blackburn) urdermined the two characters with the best chemistry on the show.
I'd also like to voice my opinion on the strength of Lynch's episodes. I really think the show is a balancing act (or tug of war, whichever cliche you want) between Lynch's out there concepts and Frost's more mainstream (but still brilliant) inclinations. The latter has its best indication in The episode where Leland/BOB is brought to justice, an episode where basically all the principle behind the scenes talent are involved except for David Lynch. It is a powerful, if straight forward, hour of television, and as essential I think to understanding why the show worked as Lynch's additions. Had the series ended with The hero's musings on the nature of evil and BOB's owl I think it would be remembered as a true masterpiece more than a cult novelty.
Unfortunately this leaves about half an arc at the end of season two thats nothing but nonsense and loose ends (except for last half of the final episode) because they arent close to resolution. The show probably would have worked best had Windom Earle and Leland's story lines switched places chronologically, but then we would have to know how Coop got out of the black lodge.
Its also funny to note that originally Coop and Audrey were supposed to be together, but external forces quashed it and the plots brought in as replacements (Ben Horne's insanity and Annie blackburn) urdermined the two characters with the best chemistry on the show.
I'd also like to voice my opinion on the strength of Lynch's episodes. I really think the show is a balancing act (or tug of war, whichever cliche you want) between Lynch's out there concepts and Frost's more mainstream (but still brilliant) inclinations. The latter has its best indication in The episode where Leland/BOB is brought to justice, an episode where basically all the principle behind the scenes talent are involved except for David Lynch. It is a powerful, if straight forward, hour of television, and as essential I think to understanding why the show worked as Lynch's additions. Had the series ended with The hero's musings on the nature of evil and BOB's owl I think it would be remembered as a true masterpiece more than a cult novelty.
It just came to seem more and more that the writers considered the show's audience to be a bunch of idiots. They'd have byzantine plots that just disintegrated, tangled narrative threads that went nowhere...it was like they were laughing at us trying to follow what was going on.
The strangeness was refreshing at first, but soon it took over to the point that the show was incoherent. Who wants to be confused for a solid hour once a week?
The strangeness was refreshing at first, but soon it took over to the point that the show was incoherent. Who wants to be confused for a solid hour once a week?
should've somehow saved the killer revelation until the end of the season. Still an awesome show but I didn't care as much after Leland was brought to "justice".Even though it was far suoerior to anything on TV at the tim I never enjoyed the movie.Even though it had the bad language and nudity I so enjoy in R rated films.It just didn't enlighten me. Dave Bowie should,ve been cuttin' a record at the time.Never understood what the hell he was doin'.As for the music? I bought the sondtrack @nd day it was available.
Great show that jumped when it focused on James.
I find it interesing how a poster stated that if you just watch the david Lynch episodes, you will know everything about this show...
Very true indeed....
I still think that Killer BOB was the SCARIEST thing ever shown on television....especially the part when Cooper has the dream, and it shows BOB walking at the camera, out of focus, and then it comes into focus, showing BOB all smiling....CREEPY...
I find it interesing how a poster stated that if you just watch the david Lynch episodes, you will know everything about this show...
Very true indeed....
I still think that Killer BOB was the SCARIEST thing ever shown on television....especially the part when Cooper has the dream, and it shows BOB walking at the camera, out of focus, and then it comes into focus, showing BOB all smiling....CREEPY...
I'm sure I shouldn't be commenting since I'm halfway throught season two, but I LOVE this show. I have no idea why I didn't watch it when it was on TV. The only correction I would make, and this may be distorted from watching 3 or 4 episodes in a row thanks to DVD rentals.... but the ominous music is everywhere. If there is a happy music track, I missed it.
It started jumping the shark right from the start of season 2. The giant scenes and the bellhop just draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaged.
It REALLY jumped the shark after Laura's murder was resolved. Suddenly none of the plotlines were connected anymore, and they were all either boring (James, Nadine) or trying way too hard to be weird (Colonel).
It REALLY jumped the shark after Laura's murder was resolved. Suddenly none of the plotlines were connected anymore, and they were all either boring (James, Nadine) or trying way too hard to be weird (Colonel).
Jumped when it focused on James Hurley, however, still an awesome show..
Did anybody notice that Ray Wise, the great character actor that played Leland Palmer, was on "24" as the vice president a couple seasons back????
Did anybody notice that Ray Wise, the great character actor that played Leland Palmer, was on "24" as the vice president a couple seasons back????
The strangest part about Twin Peaks is that if you just watch the episodes directed by David Lynch himself, you don't need to watch the others.
That being said its awful hard to nail down a "Jump the Shark" moment knowing that the show would only get better when Lynch displayed in interest in it
You can throw away most of the 2nd season. The clever imitation of soap-opera story lines became so dead-pan that they mimicked the genre they wanted to turn on its head.
Stick around for the last episode though, when it almost jumps back.
That being said its awful hard to nail down a "Jump the Shark" moment knowing that the show would only get better when Lynch displayed in interest in it
You can throw away most of the 2nd season. The clever imitation of soap-opera story lines became so dead-pan that they mimicked the genre they wanted to turn on its head.
Stick around for the last episode though, when it almost jumps back.
I really thought the movie was done well. Laura and her coke habit. Bangin the town scummies for blow. Awesome gratuitous nudity. Those were some of the hottest scenes in the movie. On top of the movie that seemed like a total acid trip. What more could you ask for out of the movie. The guy who plays Lauras dad is totally freaked out even to this day. Back woods banging you have it all. That movie over time has gotten way to much negative press. See you in heaven Laura
Jumped when it focused on James Hurley, but the last episode was by all no means the STRANGEST thing ever shown on television. It is still weird as hell when seen today....
It started off great, the second season began very well, had a couple of unnecessary plot lines, but for the most part, it was easy to forgive. However, am currently watching it on DVD with my wife and am shocked at how boring the last few episodes of the second season are getting. The whole side plot with James Hurley isn't even worth watching, the David Duchovny trick to disarm Jean Renault was embarrassing and so on. It's really a shame that it went downhill, but I can't blame the network as I don't believe that it was the resolution that ruined it, it was bad writing.
To Cooper Fan;
------------Just one thing - why WAS David Bowie in Fire Walk With Me?? I used to buy all his records, but he went right down in my estimations after his COMPLETELY POINTLESS cameo?------------
David Bowie's character was a foreshadowing of plot points that would most likely have been revealed if there were a second movie. Alas, with the bad critical respomse of FWWM, such a movie never reached fruition.
------------Just one thing - why WAS David Bowie in Fire Walk With Me?? I used to buy all his records, but he went right down in my estimations after his COMPLETELY POINTLESS cameo?------------
David Bowie's character was a foreshadowing of plot points that would most likely have been revealed if there were a second movie. Alas, with the bad critical respomse of FWWM, such a movie never reached fruition.
Lynch never intended for the killer to ever be revealed. That was supposed to be the whole point of the show - you would never find out who killed LP. ABC finally insisted there be a resolution and - even though the show was still better than anything on TV - it was never the same once we found out who "Bob" was.
I've changed my mind. It wasn't revealing the killer - it was the introduction of Annie Blackburn. Horrible character played horribly by a horrible actress as a horrible attempt to introduce a "love interest" for Coop. Absolutely horrible!
I want a season 3 that rids us of Annie, restores Coop to his old self, brings back Josie from the dead, and reintroduces Mike and Bob! David Lynch, save us!
I want a season 3 that rids us of Annie, restores Coop to his old self, brings back Josie from the dead, and reintroduces Mike and Bob! David Lynch, save us!
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